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Patience with God: Faith for People Who Don't Like Religion (or Atheism) Audiobook
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Frank Schaeffer has a problem with Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Dennett, and the rest of the New Atheists—the self-anointed “Brights.” He also has a problem with the Rick Warrens and Tim LaHayes of the world—the religious fundamentalists. The problem is that he doesn’t see much of a difference between the two camps. As Schaeffer puts it, they “often share the same fallacy: truth claims that reek of false certainties. I believe that there is an alternative that actually matches the way life is lived rather than how we usually talk about belief.” Sparing no one and nothing, including himself and his fiery evangelical past, and invoking subtleties too easily ignored by the pontificators, Schaeffer adds much-needed nuance to the existing religious conversation. “I discovered from the emails I’ve been inundated with since my memoir was published that there are more of us perplexed former (or currently) religiously inclined or religiously raised folks on a journey from past certainties to points unknown than I’d been aware of. We want to have faith in God in spite of our bad experiences with religion, oppressive family relationships, and/or doubts and questions. We too worry that we have been hoodwinked by a fairy tale. I hope that this audio book will provide a meeting place for those of us who count ourselves among the scattered members of what I’ll call the Church of Hopeful Uncertainty.
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"Frank makes the case against secular and religious Fundamentalism, while showing that a faith based in wonder and even, at times, uncertainty can be a beautiful thing. Again, this is the book I needed to read at this point in my spiritual journey. "
— Eric (5 out of 5 stars)
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“Frank Schaeffer is a patient writer, but a passionate one too. This beautiful, argumentative, and even funny book is popular theology at its best, an explanation of tradition and its absence from a man who has lived both, a writer who knows better than most that God—whether you do or don’t believe—is always a brilliant story.”
— Jeff Sharlet, New York Times bestselling author of The Family -
“Feisty.”
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“Schaeffer is not proselytizing. He knows, or at least hopes, that with this book he is singing to the choir of millions fed up with or unable to commit to full-blown atheism or stiff-necked religion of any kind. His belief that faith, in God or not, ought to support and enrich one’s life, not run it into the ground, strikes, he hopes, a universally appealing chord.”
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“Ever feel straitjacketed by the Church? Convinced God can’t be put in a box? You’ve got to read Frank Schaeffer’s explanation of why you’re not along, and how contradictions can be a paradox to be celebrated. You’ll be intellectually challenged and spiritually heartened by his life story and lessons learned.”
— Richard Cizik, president, the New Evangelicals; fellow, the Open Society Institute
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Rick L, 10/20/2021
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" In a word ... interesting. He makes his point that militant atheists are the same as fundamentalists well, but the book is as much memoir as non-fiction. I usually don't care for author-narrated books, but here I think it was better Schaeffer read it himself. "
— John, 12/4/2013 -
" Frank makes the case against secular and religious Fundamentalism, while showing that a faith based in wonder and even, at times, uncertainty can be a beautiful thing. Again, this is the book I needed to read at this point in my spiritual journey. "
— Eric, 6/19/2013 -
" A very informative and diplomatic look at the extremes that we currently have in the realm of religion! "
— Michael, 9/16/2012 -
" This book just wasn't nearly as compelling to me as _Crazy for God_, but it did have some good bits. "
— Erin, 9/1/2012 -
" In a word ... interesting. He makes his point that militant atheists are the same as fundamentalists well, but the book is as much memoir as non-fiction. I usually don't care for author-narrated books, but here I think it was better Schaeffer read it himself. "
— John, 1/19/2011 -
" A very informative and diplomatic look at the extremes that we currently have in the realm of religion! "
— Michael, 9/22/2010 -
" This book just wasn't nearly as compelling to me as _Crazy for God_, but it did have some good bits. "
— Erin, 10/17/2009
About Frank Schaeffer
Frank Sshaeffer is the author of two other novels, Saving Grandma and Portofino. In addition, he and his son, John, have coauthored the New York Times best-seller Keeping Faith: A Father-Son Story about Love and the United States Marine Corps.